Sunday, October 23, 2011

IndoctiNation: The Movie

What people are Saying about IndoctriNation:

"Every Christian parent with a child in a government school should see this [movie] and be forced to confront their unwillingness to do what Scripture requires for the children on loan to them by God. A mass exodus from government schools is the only way to preserve the souls and minds of our children."

Cal Thomas (America’s most widely syndicated op-ed columnist)

"This is the most important issue facing the Body of Christ, an issue that must be addressed and put to rest forever. IndoctriNation is an extremely important movie. Every church in America should show IndoctriNation. Every Christian should show IndoctriNation to their friends."

Ted Baehr MovieGuide


Karissa Baker said...

Public schools do have their downfalls, they can't be seen as trying to sway students to one religion or another, some have major discipline problems, and most don't have as good of an education as private or home schools.
I don't want to seem completely contrary, but teachers are allowed to mention religion in school. True, they teach other religions like Shintoism, and Buddhism, but they also teach Christianity. In NYS, Freshmen are enrolled into a Global History class, completely required by the state that they take this class, and pass it and the regents at the end of their Sophomore year. In their first year of Global History, they are taught about history, up until around the time of the signing of the Magna Carta in England. Within that year, they will also learn about several absoulute rulers, and about several of the major world religions. The religions that I learned about are Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Judaism, Shintoism, Animism, Confucius, Taoism, and Christianity. Also, they are taught about the split of the Roman catholic church, and the reformation. They are also taught about the basic beliefs of each of the above religions, and it is obvious that they all have some similarities, and this has made some students ask why these widely diverse religions all have certain characteristics.
Okay, one of the other problems with public schools is that they have discipline problems. Due to my personal experience with this major flaw in most public schools, I'm chosing to not expand upon this statement. I prefer not to think about my first year in public school, and I'm not going to give many details, simply because the principal in my old school is new, and the previous principal practically let the kids do what they wanted, and is working hard with the elementary grade, because the older grades are so far gone, it's amazing the previous principal was there as long as he was.
Anyways, my last point, is simply that public schools don't usually have as good of an education as private or home schools. They are required to teach people who don't want to learn, or have learning problems, and at the same time, the class needs to be at the same spot in their learning, so students who could learn a lot more are learning nothing, because their classmates need more time to learn information.

Okay, after I've gone through all of that, we do need to be in the world, and not of it. But how can minors be in the world, if they are private or home schooled? I know that three years ago, I knew no one that was not in my church, or youth group. Now, I know several minors, and I believe that I am able to obey that commandment. If you don't know anyone, and no one knows you, then how can you witness to them? I went to public school, in part because my sister wanted to go, and I didn't want to be home alone, and in part, because of this verse. I wasn't part of the world, but I wasn't in it either, so how could I help anyone? That verse really got to me, but I also believe that I was supposed to leave public school, but I learned a lot, not educationally, I learned next to nothing educationally, but about things that are happening around me. I know that that sounds like I'm a naive little kid, but I never realized how bad out country is.

Romans 12:2 "Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will."
-Karissa Baker

Jessica Guy said...

I have known of the danger of public schools when I first heard of the shootings and and killings then heard when my cousin was stabbed in the arm at his school. I have never agreed with the state taking control of the education of the children today...I was always afraid when i was little of being taken and put into a public school. I agree with this video and I hope in the near future we can fix this!...public school is dangerous it puts children and teens into situations that they dont need to deal with at their age nor should they have to deal with it. Parents on their defence either have one or more jobs and they overlap a lot of the time and they are not able to teach their child. But the schools are teaching everything but CHRISTIANITY!!! the schools teach Hindoism...and Islamic those religions are alowd...Cathalalisim is alowd but christianity?....the religion that this nation was founded on...NO...we cant teach that. But the "faith" that blew up the twin towers is tolerated and taught?...I will either teach my children myself or but them into this school/ christian school...its rediculuse what excuses we as a nation come up with for this type of thing. I pray we can fix this before the Lord comes...

Karissa Baker said...

Imagine if all of us Christians who have a problem with how schools are run, all become public school teachers. We could teach Christianity in schools, and no one could stop us because there would be so many of us, that non christian teachers would be almost impossible to find, so it's either no teachers, or teachers who teach about God as well as what they are payed to teach.

Now that, we can do.
-Karissa Baker

(By the way, sorry this is in two sections, but I went over the max number of characters, which is apparently 4096... really arbitrary number.)

Karissa Baker said...

Sorry this is upsidedown, this part didn't go the first time.
True the government should not be in charge of school systems, Japan is a good example of this. Twenty years ago, the U.S. had the best education, especially in sciences and mathematics, but now we are in the twenties, and Japan is at or near the top. I wonder why? Could it have to do with the fact that Japan's secondary (Jr, Sr High) schools are ALL PRIVATE owned? Probably, the students take a test at the end of their sixth grade year, and those test scores are what allows you to continue or not continue your education. Parents were required to pay tuition for their kids to go to secondary school.
Another factor in Japan, is that student's parents require them to study, and take an active role in their children's education, even though they are in school.

Now, Imagine what would happen if all public schools in the US suddenly closed.

At the very least 75% of people in the U.S. have absolutely no idea how to home-school their kids. Either they are highschool drop outs themselves, their kids refuse to submit to their parents authority but respect their public school teachers, or the parents just don't have a clue how to do it.
As of 2007, 16% of people between the ages of 16 and 24 are high school dropouts. The number of annual dropouts has been climbing since then, but just for argument's sake, we'll stick to the 16%. What if we suddenly told these people that they had to teach their own kids information that they never learned.
Okay, now, how do you teach your kids at home, if they completely disrespect you. You can't, and a lot of people in the U.S. don't know how to help their kids respect them. Their kids respected their public school teachers, so they did get an education and their disrespect was never a problem that needed to be addressed. If you don't respect you're teachers, who in this case are your parents, you will not learn.
Okay, final thing for this section. What if you just don't have a clue how to home-school? Homeschooling isn't as easy as making your kids get up, eat, do school, eat, study, do chores, have a small amount of free time, eat, take a shower, and then go to bed. No, kids need to socialize, and for many parents this is hard to find places for their kids to make friends. Adolescents also need exercise, and how do you get your kids to exercise? It's hard to come up with idea's, and the U.S. is already the #1 fattest country in the world.

Okay, now the cost. Not only do most families in the U.S. need to have both parents working full time jobs to barely make ends meet, but you also have to buy books. If you are thinking "Wow. Books. Big deal." Well, it is, try spending $200 (Exploring Creation with ____ books and Saxon Math books all cost $65, each) on books, for each child, but you also can't work when you are homeschooling. So, in short, you lose an income of AT-LEAST $15,000 a year, but you also get to spend an extra $200 just for books.

Our country would crumble. Parents would not have the money to school their kids, so adolescents would never receive an education, so they could never go to college, so we would have no doctors, engineers, scientists, mathematicians, ext. But hey, look on the bright side, everyone would just join the military, because they can always use reinforcements, and it's a higher paying job than a full time 8-5 $9 an hour job. And that's if you get no promotions, which is very unlikely.

True, in a perfect world the government would not run the school systems, but this is a fallen world, and the U.S. would crumble if we tried to suddenly change. But hey, imagine what would happen if we all stopped complaining about the problems of public school, and started changing it?

Jessica Guy said...

I agree...the changing of the schools has to start with the teachers. But to get to that point you practically have to hid that you are a christian get on good terms with the school and then try and change it...for christians today to get a job in the public school system you have to be to their standerds...I want to be come an art teacher. Simple and easy to reach the children with. China...Japan...they have excelent schools and programs for their children that do go to school because they have all these science and mathmatical equipment that they need to operate to get a job...or...they go and work manuel labor and earn barely enough to live on. I agree with the change the teachers change the schools...but first you need to get a new principal...and vic principal other wise "our teachers" will get nothing accomplished in those schools we will be thrown out or let go and you know there may be the slim chance that one of the principals or other teachers like you enought to vouch for you and help to stay in the teaching position or...they just like you...but with todays sociaty do you really think that todays christians would last long in the public school system?...I doubt it...but i will not stop trying and I hope others have this courage to stand for their God I know you do Karissa =D

Karissa Baker said...

Well, I think that in some schools they would. The chorus teacher in the public school in my town recently retired, and they are having a hard time getting a replacement. The Highschool kids in the school are unruly, and most that were in the Sr. High choir were there because they liked the teacher that retired. The teacher that they hired to replace her (because she retired) came on, but then this summer they have put the add for chorus teacher back into the paper. I think that the school would hire, and keep, a christian teacher having the kids sing semi-christian songs simply because they are having a hard time getting a teacher.

Jessica Guy said...

very true... and I know that some do make it my mom had the same kind of teacher for her chorus in highschool and its wonderful to hear about it because it gives you hope that maybe you can get in...and teachers that care about the students are hard to find. I guess that they didnt like the new teacher...I hope that i will be able to teach. Thats horrible...My moms chior director was a christian she had them sing all kinds of christian songs...they never lost a contest. haha God has a way of showing his love to us even when we dont see it. My mom was saved after she moved from Tampa Florida. I know God finds ways to put people in others lives and I am so thankful for that.

Tucker said...

I went to public school until 7th grade and it had started taking its toll ever since I walked in to 1st grade. It was a horrible influence on me. Until my 7th gade year I was convinced the earth was billions of years old and I was trying to pair evolution with my Christianity. When I finally came to my new christian school all this changed me in a great way and I found new life in Christ. Can't wait til this movie comes out.